Thanks 👍, I have on occasion also retracted into my own "time out" space to think about many of the issues you just wrote about. Former President George Washington warned us about the dangers of the two party system, the dangers are clearly visible, and tearing us apart. So much of what we have been given as a free people here in the United States has been hid from us, the division and hate are a part of the evil plan. There are soultions! The Founding documents, Ratification Debates ect.
I completely agree with what you are saying. Populism has made things in life more difficult because they want you to choose. But my perspective on it is to point out that in order for a society to live with different points of view is to recognize public life to personal life. They shouldn't really coexist. I mean we should have a strong foundation on what is expected in a public forum and when you are in your private forum. I mean I don't want to go to work, school, the grocery store, the library, etc. and see nakedness, sexualization, violence, bad manners, etc. We should have that understanding. We need to talk about what we can and what we can't tolerate in both forms. To me that is the good start. We need to stop judging one another and when you are out in public have restraint and respect to keep your opinions to your self unless on a platform where we can do that with respect. Not everyone wants to go around parading what they think and believe in public to force everyone to endure your point of view. There are platforms for that and then there are places where we just want to live without being force feed politics, religion, opinions, and judgements. I feel with the technology at our finger tips it has blurred the lines of public and private platforms and places. So if I were to start somewhere that is it. Get out the lines of what is appropriate in public and in private. People now put their private lives out there and then get upset when people start giving their opinions. See how blurred the lines are? We need a true foundation set on what is public behavior and private behavior. What platforms are considered public and what is considered private and where are the lines drawn?
I forgot to mention that no matter what you do or believe. You will never fit in with some people. That's just the way that it is. An antidote for that is to live in mutually beneficial relationships that we fit and belong in. At least as far as the inner circle of relationships are concerned. The way I see it. For every unhappy minute that you endure living with one unnecessary relationship. You can be happier spending your time elsewhere. For me my walk-a-way list excludes family, a spouse or long time friendships where there is hope for reconciliation and improvement.
Totally relate to this, Robyn. It's not really my perfect picture because it's perpetually uncomfortable, but for decades I haven't had the ease of feeling like I'm in bed with the majority... but you have me thinking that maybe I am.
I can easily say things that offend both gay and straight people, both liberal and conservative people. The loudest parts of the continuum seem to be the edges. As the quieter majority I believe we under estimate how important our intermodulation will be as we create a way forward... speaking directly at myself. [Intermodulation distortion: the production of new output signals which are created from the nonlinear combination of two or more input signals.] ... sorry, studying ham radio right now.
After using all my business brand capital and throwing it at a stolen election and medical fraud back in 2020 (and taking a lot of heat for it), I basically went dark. It was too much on top of losing my mother, getting a divorce, then having a crazy roller coaster rebound relationship, gah... too old for this. Once I have time to let the silence of the winter nourish my tattered soul a bit, I am feeling the calling to get out there again... you know, people have a right to my opinion and how I think things should be ;-)
Anyhow, just want to thank you for your continued energy and productivity. It's very rare that I don't resonate with you. That's a gift, a breath of fresh air.
Robin, I share your sentiments on finding and standing on common ground with people. Everyone may not agree with me on what I'm about to say. And that's ok on this end. The reason I think there's such a divide amongst people these days. Excluding the existence of the devil and the globalists' deceptions, lies, propaganda, never-ending manipulations of everything with what they have to do. Along with the control freak and demonic nature of these people.
Having said all of the above. I think the biggest problem that common people have in uniting is due to their lack of commitment and faithfulness to God. I truly don't believe we need to look any farther past that obstacle. I don't believe that we can be any more dedicated or committed to another human being than we are to God. From my personal experiences and observation and reports on the lives of others. The best relationships were experienced by parties who were devoted to God. It tells us in Amos 3:3, Can two walk together except they be agreed?
Long story short. I decided long ago to not have any unrealistic expectations or hopes from anyone who has not allowed Jesus to sit on the throne of their life. He must be first in my opinion. Or any relationship is subject to failure and disappointment. The best advice I can give anyone these days is to make sure that they stand with Jesus. And seek to live in peace with those who do. It's not our job to change the world or to change others. We all need to let Jesus transform us so that we can live in peace, hope and love with others who do the same. Nothing else is working to my knowledge. Cheers!
I think you are spot on Robyn with the 'Help! I'm Politically Marooned' article. I have felt this populist issue and believe it is extremely detrimental to our country. Perhaps a result to our limited two party system. I am very much in the 60% middle group. I strive to remain loving in my communication with everyone no matter where they fall on this spectrum. I also try hard to maintain an open mind to each and every viewpoint offered during conversations. We are definitely at an extremely divided chasm in certain realms and I believe we (as the 60%) have and opportunity to shape things. I trust our democratic country can overcome the 'Great reset' of those who propose that as a solution. History will show that has never been a successful solution for societies!
I often say that I've gone so far left I've found myself hob-nobbing with the right. I think the spectrum is more of a circle with a certain percentage of establishment democrats and republicans who just follow the narrative of their parties reflecting a significant slice of that pie. The rest of us are the populists. What can we "left" and "right"populists agree on? That we hate government/ corporate corruption. That the pandemic was handled horribly. That freedom of speech and religion and the right to assemble are all super important. that the constitution is important. community and living healthy lives and personal responsibility and families are important. That love trumps fear. I think maybe we need to focus on these things with our populist friends. I actually see hope in being politically marooned with traditionally right leaning people. I'm finding out that they are some of the most wonderful warm hearted loving people. Not the hate mongers I I used to think they were.
Yes! Populism is a big problem and who has pushed these extreme ideals on all of us? The government officials and the mainstream media. As we all stop, step back and take a long hard look at these issues, most of us will find we are all in the same camp. We all want freedom and liberty. Let's stop looking to these people to tell us how to think. We need to do the hard part and do the thinking ourselves. When we do, we will all realize we are on the same team.
I come from the conservative side. In the last decade I have been on a health journey(GSG detoxer for 5 years) and many of the people I associate with look at me sideways when I start discussing healthy eating and vaccine hesitancy. This is an uphill battle, to say the least. But I know what is right and true and continue to stick to my guns on health issues. Just like parenting, even if it appears to have gone in one ear and out the other, the seed has been sown. Somewhere down the line what you said will be remembered. I guess I'm old enough now to not care if my "tribe" thinks I'm nuts. We all come together when we get to the precipice.
The rode versus Wade overturn back to the states was the worst timing in history. I think the decision was used and planned. Abortion laws and it's associated misinfo. will continue to be a useful tool for the political puppeteers.
I get it! The problem is that even those in the middle -- and one of my best friends who is registered democrat but way more in the center -- won't stop with the CNN or listen to alternative opinions. She and my non-political but voting R friend had never heard the term "ESG" when I said it to them about 4 months ago. I explained it, why it is bad for our freedoms and our economy, and then I said "Google your all your banks with "ESG" after it and you will see how pervasive it already is. In other words, when you take that "middle 60%," I'd say a good 50% of those are not seeking truth or in any way intentionally trying to hear other sides. We have WAY too much censorship and collusion between the Govt and Media/Social Media that it doesn't even allow people to choose between a Red and Blue pill. I'm not even saying that they have to think like me in every way - on abortion, on vaccines, on pharmaceuticals and our medical and scientific "experts"- but they have to be willing to not think that I'm completely looney when I point to where I get my info.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. I did get the first round of Vax, but I will not be getting any of the subsequent "boosters." I'm so tired of the "us vs them" populism, as you called it. The 60% of us in the middle really need to come together somehow. I'm completely open to ideas.
I totally relate to what you're saying. I don't belong with the far right, but I don't trust the government's narrative. I fear that our rights are slowly being eroded. But I mostly just keep quiet because it causes contention. We need to learn to listen to other points of view!
Thanks 👍, I have on occasion also retracted into my own "time out" space to think about many of the issues you just wrote about. Former President George Washington warned us about the dangers of the two party system, the dangers are clearly visible, and tearing us apart. So much of what we have been given as a free people here in the United States has been hid from us, the division and hate are a part of the evil plan. There are soultions! The Founding documents, Ratification Debates ect.
I completely agree with what you are saying. Populism has made things in life more difficult because they want you to choose. But my perspective on it is to point out that in order for a society to live with different points of view is to recognize public life to personal life. They shouldn't really coexist. I mean we should have a strong foundation on what is expected in a public forum and when you are in your private forum. I mean I don't want to go to work, school, the grocery store, the library, etc. and see nakedness, sexualization, violence, bad manners, etc. We should have that understanding. We need to talk about what we can and what we can't tolerate in both forms. To me that is the good start. We need to stop judging one another and when you are out in public have restraint and respect to keep your opinions to your self unless on a platform where we can do that with respect. Not everyone wants to go around parading what they think and believe in public to force everyone to endure your point of view. There are platforms for that and then there are places where we just want to live without being force feed politics, religion, opinions, and judgements. I feel with the technology at our finger tips it has blurred the lines of public and private platforms and places. So if I were to start somewhere that is it. Get out the lines of what is appropriate in public and in private. People now put their private lives out there and then get upset when people start giving their opinions. See how blurred the lines are? We need a true foundation set on what is public behavior and private behavior. What platforms are considered public and what is considered private and where are the lines drawn?
I agree with you.
I forgot to mention that no matter what you do or believe. You will never fit in with some people. That's just the way that it is. An antidote for that is to live in mutually beneficial relationships that we fit and belong in. At least as far as the inner circle of relationships are concerned. The way I see it. For every unhappy minute that you endure living with one unnecessary relationship. You can be happier spending your time elsewhere. For me my walk-a-way list excludes family, a spouse or long time friendships where there is hope for reconciliation and improvement.
Totally relate to this, Robyn. It's not really my perfect picture because it's perpetually uncomfortable, but for decades I haven't had the ease of feeling like I'm in bed with the majority... but you have me thinking that maybe I am.
I can easily say things that offend both gay and straight people, both liberal and conservative people. The loudest parts of the continuum seem to be the edges. As the quieter majority I believe we under estimate how important our intermodulation will be as we create a way forward... speaking directly at myself. [Intermodulation distortion: the production of new output signals which are created from the nonlinear combination of two or more input signals.] ... sorry, studying ham radio right now.
After using all my business brand capital and throwing it at a stolen election and medical fraud back in 2020 (and taking a lot of heat for it), I basically went dark. It was too much on top of losing my mother, getting a divorce, then having a crazy roller coaster rebound relationship, gah... too old for this. Once I have time to let the silence of the winter nourish my tattered soul a bit, I am feeling the calling to get out there again... you know, people have a right to my opinion and how I think things should be ;-)
Anyhow, just want to thank you for your continued energy and productivity. It's very rare that I don't resonate with you. That's a gift, a breath of fresh air.
On Point as usual Robyn! Couldn't agree more with what you wrote or how you wrote it. I'm right there with you!
Robin, I share your sentiments on finding and standing on common ground with people. Everyone may not agree with me on what I'm about to say. And that's ok on this end. The reason I think there's such a divide amongst people these days. Excluding the existence of the devil and the globalists' deceptions, lies, propaganda, never-ending manipulations of everything with what they have to do. Along with the control freak and demonic nature of these people.
Having said all of the above. I think the biggest problem that common people have in uniting is due to their lack of commitment and faithfulness to God. I truly don't believe we need to look any farther past that obstacle. I don't believe that we can be any more dedicated or committed to another human being than we are to God. From my personal experiences and observation and reports on the lives of others. The best relationships were experienced by parties who were devoted to God. It tells us in Amos 3:3, Can two walk together except they be agreed?
Long story short. I decided long ago to not have any unrealistic expectations or hopes from anyone who has not allowed Jesus to sit on the throne of their life. He must be first in my opinion. Or any relationship is subject to failure and disappointment. The best advice I can give anyone these days is to make sure that they stand with Jesus. And seek to live in peace with those who do. It's not our job to change the world or to change others. We all need to let Jesus transform us so that we can live in peace, hope and love with others who do the same. Nothing else is working to my knowledge. Cheers!
I think you are spot on Robyn with the 'Help! I'm Politically Marooned' article. I have felt this populist issue and believe it is extremely detrimental to our country. Perhaps a result to our limited two party system. I am very much in the 60% middle group. I strive to remain loving in my communication with everyone no matter where they fall on this spectrum. I also try hard to maintain an open mind to each and every viewpoint offered during conversations. We are definitely at an extremely divided chasm in certain realms and I believe we (as the 60%) have and opportunity to shape things. I trust our democratic country can overcome the 'Great reset' of those who propose that as a solution. History will show that has never been a successful solution for societies!
Politically homeless
I often say that I've gone so far left I've found myself hob-nobbing with the right. I think the spectrum is more of a circle with a certain percentage of establishment democrats and republicans who just follow the narrative of their parties reflecting a significant slice of that pie. The rest of us are the populists. What can we "left" and "right"populists agree on? That we hate government/ corporate corruption. That the pandemic was handled horribly. That freedom of speech and religion and the right to assemble are all super important. that the constitution is important. community and living healthy lives and personal responsibility and families are important. That love trumps fear. I think maybe we need to focus on these things with our populist friends. I actually see hope in being politically marooned with traditionally right leaning people. I'm finding out that they are some of the most wonderful warm hearted loving people. Not the hate mongers I I used to think they were.
Yes! Populism is a big problem and who has pushed these extreme ideals on all of us? The government officials and the mainstream media. As we all stop, step back and take a long hard look at these issues, most of us will find we are all in the same camp. We all want freedom and liberty. Let's stop looking to these people to tell us how to think. We need to do the hard part and do the thinking ourselves. When we do, we will all realize we are on the same team.
I come from the conservative side. In the last decade I have been on a health journey(GSG detoxer for 5 years) and many of the people I associate with look at me sideways when I start discussing healthy eating and vaccine hesitancy. This is an uphill battle, to say the least. But I know what is right and true and continue to stick to my guns on health issues. Just like parenting, even if it appears to have gone in one ear and out the other, the seed has been sown. Somewhere down the line what you said will be remembered. I guess I'm old enough now to not care if my "tribe" thinks I'm nuts. We all come together when we get to the precipice.
The rode versus Wade overturn back to the states was the worst timing in history. I think the decision was used and planned. Abortion laws and it's associated misinfo. will continue to be a useful tool for the political puppeteers.
I agree. It seemed planned to keep as many polarized as possible
I get it! The problem is that even those in the middle -- and one of my best friends who is registered democrat but way more in the center -- won't stop with the CNN or listen to alternative opinions. She and my non-political but voting R friend had never heard the term "ESG" when I said it to them about 4 months ago. I explained it, why it is bad for our freedoms and our economy, and then I said "Google your all your banks with "ESG" after it and you will see how pervasive it already is. In other words, when you take that "middle 60%," I'd say a good 50% of those are not seeking truth or in any way intentionally trying to hear other sides. We have WAY too much censorship and collusion between the Govt and Media/Social Media that it doesn't even allow people to choose between a Red and Blue pill. I'm not even saying that they have to think like me in every way - on abortion, on vaccines, on pharmaceuticals and our medical and scientific "experts"- but they have to be willing to not think that I'm completely looney when I point to where I get my info.
1. Common Ground is Freedom/Liberty.
2. Politically, that = Libertarianism
3. Since the idea of 'Only Two Parties Allowed' will continue to be forced on the everyone, the only other option = Secession.
4. Secession works. Divide up the country appropriately and simply go where you are wanted.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. I did get the first round of Vax, but I will not be getting any of the subsequent "boosters." I'm so tired of the "us vs them" populism, as you called it. The 60% of us in the middle really need to come together somehow. I'm completely open to ideas.
I totally relate to what you're saying. I don't belong with the far right, but I don't trust the government's narrative. I fear that our rights are slowly being eroded. But I mostly just keep quiet because it causes contention. We need to learn to listen to other points of view!